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Title: Firing extra rounds.
Post by: vaquero on June 06, 2014, 03:51:46 PM
I think I posted this question in the wrong place.  First, I am a new shooter, only shot my 3rd. match, but I have a question.  A shooter shoots his shotgun, goes to the pistol, the stage requires, 1 shot on #1 target, 1 shot on #2 target, and 3 shots on #3 target, a reload, and complete the sequence again.  My question is, perhaps the shooter is ok. with shooting #1 and #2 targets, but has a malfunction, he clears the gun reloads and shoots the correct number of shots on #3, leaving 2 in the gun.  My question is, can the shooter shoot the extra 2 rounds into the berm, or does he have to manually clear the gun?  Someone said it would be an advantage, I don't know, but being left handed, it would require me to change hands to manually clear the gun, and lock the slide.  Would it be a spirit of the game violation, or an advantage.   I don't know.  I can clear and lock the slide back quite quickly, so it doesn't really matter to me, but the situation could appear sometime in the future.  Thanks.   P.S. the shooter shoots 10 rifle targets after the pistol.
Title: Re: Firing extra rounds.
Post by: J. Frank Norfleet on June 06, 2014, 04:56:17 PM
No, Happy Jack gave you the definitive answer on the other post.  You have to manually clear the pistol.  This happens frequently for what ever reason.

Don't fire the rounds in the berm:

15.The penalty for using “illegally acquired” ammunition (i.e., NOT carried to the line/staged by the shooter in an approved manner) or overloaded rounds that are fired will be a PROCEDURAL. Any targets hit using that ammo will be scored as MISSES. NO adjustments will be made to the stage raw time. Shooters Handbook p 24

Manually clear the pistol and lock the slide back by placing the trigger finger on your left hand under the slide stop as you pull the slide back with the right hand.  Do not switch hands with a loaded pistol.  You will get a SDQ

• No cocked, loaded pistol may ever leave a shooter’s hand (Stage Disqualification). This also means from one hand to the other. This does not apply to clearing malfunctions. Shooters Handbook P.7

JFN
Title: Re: Firing extra rounds.
Post by: vaquero on June 06, 2014, 06:29:57 PM
Thanks  J. Frank Norfleet, that clears it up...............going to have to practice that, racking and locking the slide with my trigger finger on the left hand.
Title: Re: Firing extra rounds.
Post by: KingSnake on June 06, 2014, 06:51:07 PM
Additionally, try not to have any malfunctions.
Most malfunctions I see are ammo related. Take time to find how to load ammo that will consistently cycle in your 1911.
If malfunctions are gun related, have a competent 1911 gunsmith take a look.
Some malfunctions are magazine related. After I started using Tripp mags I haven't had any mag problems.
Even after that, you may still have an occasional malfunction so practicing what JFN said is important.
Title: Re: Firing extra rounds.
Post by: Miss Cubbie on June 07, 2014, 10:36:01 AM

Manually clear the pistol and lock the slide back by placing the trigger finger on your left hand under the slide stop as you pull the slide back with the right hand.
JFN

Thanks for that, J Frank!  Tried that suggestion out and with a bit of practice, it can be done by someone with short fingers.

Now to be able to remember that in the moment you need it....... :P
Title: Re: Firing extra rounds.
Post by: vaquero on June 08, 2014, 06:42:42 AM
That is my problem too, I don't have large hands.   I have found that I have to grab the slide, just behind the muzzle, to rack it and lock the slide with my trigger finger....it works, but I will need to practice.
Title: Re: Firing extra rounds.
Post by: Sgt. John Campbell on June 08, 2014, 09:44:13 AM
Then it would seem the proper course of action would be to practice then, would it not?  Happy Jack gave you the answer previously, did you really think the answer would somehow change if you asked the question again in another posting?
Title: Re: Firing extra rounds.
Post by: Branchwater Jack - 88854 on July 10, 2014, 07:57:22 AM
If you are having trouble locking back the slide, you may drop mag, eject round, pick up and insert empty mag, pull slide back.

The empty mag would lock the slide.