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Title: New Category in Wild Bunch
Post by: Grouchy Spike on July 07, 2017, 11:57:48 AM
After some range time yesterday, I'm thinking ahead that there might be a demand for a new category in Wild Bunch in the not-too-distant future:  the Arthritis Category  for those of us who have turned the calendar many times and whose hands are taking painful notice of recoil. 

Maybe 45 ACP loads below the 150 PF or even better 1911s in 9mm with no PF.

Is anybody ready to move into this  category other than me?
Title: Re: New Category in Wild Bunch
Post by: lostvaquero on July 07, 2017, 02:01:55 PM
Yes.  I have carpal tunnel in both wrists and after a regular WB really hurts.  So far has not happened on the line but my fingers will 'freeze' which quite painful.  I sure wouldn't mind minor class with 9 or lower pf say like 105. A 124gr at around 850 = 105
Title: Re: New Category in Wild Bunch
Post by: August West on July 07, 2017, 06:20:15 PM
I assure you, you'll be among friends regardless of category.
Title: Re: New Category in Wild Bunch
Post by: VICIOUS on July 07, 2017, 06:24:30 PM
HI Gang. Is it possible to still use a 45 acp 1911 and drop the powder factor? Would this still be OK to the decision makers and safe to shoot?
Title: Re: New Category in Wild Bunch
Post by: Garrison Joe on July 07, 2017, 08:25:44 PM
It gets hard to build a good .45 auto load for a standard-built 1911 down below about 140 PF.  You would be talking about a bullseye type gun with light springs.   The original concepts were to keep highly modified guns out of the sport to avoid pricey technology races.    I have greatly appreciated that approach.

But, a 9 MM would be much easier for folks with aches and pains to handle.  I could see a minor class with a PF floor around 105 or so.   It won't be easy finding any commercial lead bullet ammo like that, though, so shooters would still be handloading their ammo.   

It is already being done at several WB matches.   Call around and see,,,,
Title: Re: New Category in Wild Bunch
Post by: lostvaquero on July 08, 2017, 12:48:25 AM
I have bofh magtec and ultramax 9mm 124gr lead commercial loadings.  I do not have a chronograph but probably a bit higher then 850fps.
Title: Re: New Category in Wild Bunch
Post by: vaquero on July 09, 2017, 10:14:46 AM
I feel bad about your wrist ailments.......   If Wild Bunch starts adding any new categories, it will be heading down the road like CAS has.   I have been shooting both CAS and Wild Bunch for some time.   When I started with CAS, I think there was 7 or 9 categories.....now I think there is about 42, which is ridiculous.   I like Wild Bunch categories, traditional and modern, some times an open class is available..........and that is it.
Title: Re: New Category in Wild Bunch
Post by: Grouchy Spike on July 11, 2017, 11:14:35 AM
I agree with you Vaquero!

Old Wild Bunch shooters never die.  They just fade away with a bottle of Aleve! ;D
Title: Re: New Category in Wild Bunch
Post by: vaquero on July 12, 2017, 05:46:05 AM
Aleve is our friend!
Title: Re: New Category in Wild Bunch
Post by: lostvaquero on July 12, 2017, 07:49:29 AM
Personally I would rather avoid taking extra medication then changing or adding a minor class. 
Title: Re: New Category in Wild Bunch
Post by: Last Chance on July 12, 2017, 12:38:41 PM
I guess some people just aren't tough enough to shoot WildBunch. . .  Oh well. . .
Title: Re: New Category in Wild Bunch
Post by: Grouchy Spike on July 12, 2017, 06:49:22 PM
 :o Ah, the arrogance of youthful exuberance!    ;D

I remember those days! ::)
Title: Re: New Category in Wild Bunch
Post by: Allie Mo on July 15, 2017, 09:41:30 AM
What is the Senior Category, if not for us old folks?
Title: Re: New Category in Wild Bunch
Post by: lostvaquero on July 16, 2017, 12:51:34 AM
I guess some people just aren't tough enough to shoot WildBunch. . .  Oh well. . .

Guess some people have no compassion.....Oh well......
Title: Re: New Category in Wild Bunch
Post by: vaquero on July 16, 2017, 03:19:03 PM
Compassion has no place in Wild Bunch.......I take my Aleve and go for it.
Title: Re: New Category in Wild Bunch
Post by: Last Chance on July 16, 2017, 05:17:19 PM
No need to drop power factor or add another PF category.
Title: Re: New Category in Wild Bunch
Post by: Lone Dog on July 17, 2017, 11:50:42 AM
Aleve is bad ju ju poison. So is tylenol. Look it up. Too much of either and your liver and kidneys are forfeit. It is VA provided methocarbomal and enteric coated aspirin for me.