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The Wild Bunch Wire / 1873 .45 acp conversion?
« Last post by mortman on December 31, 2017, 11:19:34 AM »

still an interesting concept; but the only one i actually saw didn't work very well (Cody job).

was this unusual or common? anybody shooting one that works?

gotta say that a 16", 10 rd. carbine sounds really cool.

oh, yeah, i have read about the Ranger Precision Marlin; but it seems like an awful lot of money spent to experience the dreaded Marlin jam.

Reloading for Wild Bunch / Re: Bamm Loads
« Last post by Kid Rich on December 31, 2017, 05:35:21 AM »
Thanks GJ. That ought to get me some good results. Maybe we will be able to shoot BAMM at WR. I shoot the Mosin every week at the range here but ammo is getting a little harder to find. I keep most of the copper out of the bore on the Mosin. I find it a little easier if I do copper removal every couple of weeks.
Reloading for Wild Bunch / Re: 45ACP & 45 Colt loads with Solo 1000
« Last post by Garrison Joe on December 30, 2017, 08:23:27 PM »
170 grain bullet - Wasn't legal in the 2017 or earlier versions of the rules, either.    So, doesn't matter if you haven't read 2018 version.  180 grain is the minimum, and a 185 nominal slug is the lightest any reasonable person would want to load, (in case you get a batch that are running lighter than nominal weight, you will still pass the bullet weigh-in if you are selected for a Power Factor check).

Good luck, GJ
Reloading for Wild Bunch / Re: Bamm Loads
« Last post by Garrison Joe on December 30, 2017, 08:20:27 PM »
Cast Boolits forum has a great article on "The Load" that works for most bolt action military guns of the 20th century.

It's here:

The article is long, but the summary is a set of four different levels of power:

1. 125 grain plain based "small game/gallery" 900-1000 f.p.s., 5 grains of Bullseye or equivalent pistol powder.

2. 150 grain plain based "100-yard target/small game", 1050-1250 f.p.s., 7 grains of Bullseye or equivalent pistol powder.

3. 170-180 grain gas checked "200 yard target", 1500-1600 f.p.s., 16 grains of Alliant 2400 or equivalent.

4. 180-200 grain gas-checked "deer/600 yard target", 1750-1850 f.p.s., 26 grains of Reloder7 or equivalent.

I will certify that the #3 load is a sweet shooting target load, and is quite good for all the bolt action rifles I've tried it in, from 6.5 Swede to 30-06 to 8 mm Mauser.  And it will work with a slight powder weight reduction with a lighter (150 grain) slug.   Keep velocity below about 1600 FPS and almost any gun will shoot good groups and not lead the barrel.

There's tons more info in the C.E. Harrison article that is at the URL.

4759 is a great powder for cast bullet loads - except you cannot buy it anymore.  Stopped production about the end of 2015 and ALL the store stock has disappeared.

IF you decide to shoot cast bullet loads, you will normally need to scrub all the copper fouling out of the barrel before trying to get reasonable groups with cast bullets.   The poly-coated bullets may be a little more forgiving and let you switch between jacketed and poly loads - I've not heard results from anyone on that point.

Good luck, GJ
Reloading for Wild Bunch / Re: Bamm Loads
« Last post by Kid Rich on December 30, 2017, 07:47:13 PM »
Thanks Dusty. I was hoping to get more than load but it sounds like a good place to start.
Kid Rich
Reloading for Wild Bunch / Re: 45ACP & 45 Colt loads with Solo 1000
« Last post by VICIOUS on December 30, 2017, 05:36:40 PM »
Reloading for Wild Bunch / Re: 45ACP & 45 Colt loads with Solo 1000
« Last post by Blackfoot on December 30, 2017, 04:52:57 PM »
In 45 Auto with 170 grain bullet, Accurate shows 5.3 as a starting weight. Be careful if you're using this in WB. It may get close to the 1000 fps maximum. 200 grain starting load is 4.8. With the 230 grain bullet, their starting load is 4.6 grains.
In 45 Colt, they don't list starting loads but their max load is 6.7 grains.

Is a 170gr bullet legal in? WB  I haven't read the 2018 book line for line.
Reloading for Wild Bunch / Re: Bamm Loads
« Last post by DUSTY BODDAMS on December 30, 2017, 11:54:43 AM »
KR, I bet the reduced loads would be a lot easier......on everything! My favorite load for that rifle is 16 to 18 grains of 4759, standard primer and about a 170 grain gc lead hi tek coated bullet. Accurate and gets the job done with hardly any recoil. Welcome to BAMM! Dusty Boddams
Reloading for Wild Bunch / Bamm Loads
« Last post by Kid Rich on December 30, 2017, 10:51:36 AM »
I am looking for some reduced loads for 7.62X54. If anyone can help I would appreciate it. Any powder with loads preferably for the 150 or lighter bullet range. It can be for copper jacketed or lead with or without gas check.
 I usually shoot the milspec ammo but Shirttail would like to try some Bamm shooting and I'm don't think she would like shooting milspec in her M44.
Thanks in advance.
Kid Rich
The Wild Bunch Wire / Nine-year old stops carjacking
« Last post by Grouchy Spike on December 28, 2017, 11:26:15 AM »
A nine-year old, sitting in the back seat of Dad's truck while Dad was in a convenience store, stopped a carjacker from stealing Dad's pickup.  Seems that the engine was running, carjacker opened the door and climbed behind the steering wheel, and young Larimore pulled up his pellet gun, pointed it at the carjacker's head.  The carjacker caused some other excitement - read the article linked.  I wonder whether young Larimore said something like "Make my day, punk!"

I am reminded of an incident involving grandson Eagle Eye Kane when he was ten. He spent summers and holidays with me, learned to shoot at age seven, was cowboy shooting from age eight with both a SxS and a M97. This story was related by both Eagle Eye and his mother.  Seems that toward nightfall an uninvited guest trespassed into the front yard.  The dogs bark changed from alert to continuous barking.  Mom went to the front door, saw the intruder (not well dressed) and told him to stop, that the dog would bite.  The intruder ignored her and the dog, continued walking to the steps on the porch.  At that time Eagle Eye appeared in the front doorway with a loaded Ithaca Mag 10 at port arms, and said "You better leave"  The intruder put up his hands, walked away.  Mom asked Eagle Eye where he learned that defensive technique, and he said "Grandpa told me that when something like this was happening, the intruder wasn't stopping by for coffee so I better be prepared to use force." The training paid off, Eagle Eye didn't shoot but was prepared to if the threat moved closer.

After reading the link above, Eagle Eye related another incident that happened a year ago at age 15.  He was home alone toward sundown on a winter day, heard a vehicle in the driveway, looked out the window and saw three hooded guys trying to load his Dad's old junk Honda Gold Wing onto a trailer.  He tried to reach his mom by phone, but she didn't answer, so he called Dad at work.  Dad said "I didn't tell anybody that they could have that Honda."  Kane grabs the Mag 10, walks out the front door, shouting at the three thieves.  One runs away, another says "Kane, don't shoot!  It's Wesley, your cousin, don't shoot!"

Seems that Mom had given Wesley permission to remove the bike, hadn't told Dad or Eagle Eye.

Kane should change his cowboy alias to 'Shotgun Kane' or "Shotgun Eye' or some such appropriate alias!
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