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J. Frank Norfleet

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ACES & WBAS
« on: October 01, 2014, 05:55:46 AM »
I Just downloaded the ACES Scoring program.  I thought you could do the WBAS stage point scoring on it.  All I see it the stage point scoring.  Anybody doing the stage point scoring with it?
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Re: ACES & WBAS
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2014, 08:07:31 AM »
Denton Dancer uses it for scoring Wild Bunch at Oakwood.  I don't know the mechanics of it but it does modern, traditional and overall. 
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2014, 10:28:03 AM »
ACES and Wild Bunch

Yup - We have used ACES with Wild Bunch and Plainsman Matches here in Northern Nevada with great success.

All you have to do is enter a new 'Category' for the matches.

ACES is simple to use and the results are instant. No more keying for someone after the match.

However - there is an associated learning curve on how to get the results printed. Anyone with a little computer knowledge can easily handle it.

If you need any help, please contact me. Would be glad to help you out.

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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2014, 11:03:16 AM »
Alright, figured it out.  It is easy after you get beyond the learning curve.  My printer is wifi enabled and will print the scores directly from my phone.  What a great program!
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2014, 03:28:32 PM »
It was a great program. Just wish it was still supported by the developer.

From business side, I cannot knowingly request the club outlay that much money for hardware to run a program on that may not work the next time the hardware manufacturer sends out an update.

Rather spend the money on new steel.

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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2014, 04:54:12 PM »
Ah Branchwater, I believe Pit Viper aka Ken Nelson is still supporting it and offering it free to anyone who wants it. I will touch bases with him and see.

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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2014, 05:06:33 PM »
Just looked today at the price of iPads.

A good used iPad runs something like $170.

The ACES Program is 'Free' through iTunes or Google Play Store.

Program can either be downloaded for iPads or tablets. Much experience with both. ACES works much easier through iPads.

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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2014, 06:27:00 PM »
Last word went out that we got that it, like the SASS app, ACES is available for download and use.

But neither have been touched or updated in a couple of years and there was no plans from the developer, NiftyBytes/Pitt Viper, to continue to develop any new features for it since there was no financial incentive   

WolfWind Walker was even shopping around trying to find someone with the skills to pick it up and run with it and do more with it.

You take a look at the version of the rulebook or club listing in the SASS app lately?

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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2014, 06:31:01 PM »
just got an iPhone 6, works great on it.
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2014, 06:39:32 PM »
Ya. Don't get me wrong, guys.

Personally, I have enjoyed using it 

Use it on my phone and my wife's phone to keep up with our scores

As a support model for a club, if you can get the hardware donated or borrow it for match day, I think it is a great setup.  If your club usually only runs one or two posses at a match, the cost may be ok, too

Especially for monthlies

But, from a financial sense, it is hard for some clubs to justify the expense of 12-15 scoring devices and the rest of the hardware that goes with it if the long-term commitment isuncertain.  Especially big matches trying to keepcosts down

I have a closet full of hardware and software that was awesome when I first got it, but are unusable because of OS and or hardware changes within just a couple years.
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2014, 07:10:31 PM »
Branchwater Jack,
You are taking the long view on this.  I have a MacIntosh Classic which is about 25 years old.  Still runs great and runs all the software made for it.  Don't worry about what might work in the future.  Get some iPads or iPhones, download the free program and use it.  If they are cared for and lightly used I'll bet they will last for many years.
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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2014, 07:36:09 PM »
FYSA,

For those with the SASS app, when you read the WB Handbook, you are reading the April 2012 version.

But then again, nothing to worry about there bacause nothing has changed since then, right?

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Let us skip past the fact that there are customers out there who would like additioanl features added to ACES, but are unable because development of it is no longer an ongoing concern.

The software is in a mainthenance phase, at best, and at any moment, without warning, could hit end of life.

These Mobile devices have a lot more risk to them than your 25 year old mac

People drop them
They get wet
They get dusty
Ports break
Solder comes loose (problem with some Kindle devices)
Batteries hit End of Life and may or not be available to replace, or are just as expensive as new hardware to replace

ACES is a good tool

If your club can afford it, go for it, I am not saying that you shouldn't

I have been to a club that owns no hardware but runs ACES at their matches. Three or four pards all bring their own devices to each match and they make it work

It can be done

But some clubs are unable to spend money like Congress, especially when there is uncertainty of future viability.

Would you spend $2500+ on targets you might not be able to use in two years?

All I'm sayin

Y'all have fun shooting somewhere this weekend. Matter of fact, I just finished settin up our three matches the Mrs and I are shooting in my ACES on this here phone.

:)
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Re: ACES & WBAS
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2014, 07:56:12 AM »
Another question, after the match is over and scores printed, is there anyway to delete that match?
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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2014, 12:33:31 PM »
Can you delete matches already scored -

Yup - with a push of the 'Edit' button and another push of the 'Delete' button, that particular match is as if it never was.