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John Boy

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Trigger Finger Not Outside Trigger Guard ...
« on: November 23, 2014, 08:22:15 PM »
WB RO Aug 2014 – pg 19
Minor Safety Penalties
• Failure to have the trigger finger outside the trigger guard while moving.
• Failure to have the trigger finger outside the trigger guard while reloading.
• Failure to have the trigger finger outside the trigger guard when clearing a malfunction.

STAGE DISQUALIFICATION
• Unsafe firearm handling.
• Failure to have the trigger finger outside the trigger guard : moving, reloading, clear malfunction are Unsafe Firearm Handling
Why a MSV and not a  SDQ?
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Re: Trigger Finger Not Outside Trigger Guard ...
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2014, 11:09:59 AM »
There was long and frequent discussion about the "trigger finger" rule in WBAS. As you know in CAS moving, reloading and clearing malfunctioning firearms WITH you trigger finger in the trigger guard is a No Call. It is a SDQ or MDQ in all other shooting sports. We decided to "split the difference" in WBAS. It is still the most frequent violation we see during a match. That is the reason for the "Finger" warning we give the first time at a match.
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Re: Trigger Finger Not Outside Trigger Guard ...
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2014, 05:40:53 PM »
IDPA allows for one finger alert; a second call is a MDQ. Seems to me to be reasonable.
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Re: Trigger Finger Not Outside Trigger Guard ...
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2015, 05:07:55 PM »
IDPA allows for one finger alert; a second call is a MDQ. Seems to me to be reasonable.
Hi CK,

It seems that might be "hard to swallow" for the many folks with a CAS background, where there is no penalty for this.

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Re: Trigger Finger Not Outside Trigger Guard ...
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2015, 06:04:08 PM »
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It seems that might be "hard to swallow"
But Allie - it sends a message with a capital M though!
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Re: Trigger Finger Not Outside Trigger Guard ...
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2015, 07:08:44 AM »
HI Gang; We are not using a gun that needs to be manually cocked to fire. So we have to have a higher level of awareness of our auctions. 

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Re: Trigger Finger Not Outside Trigger Guard ...
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2015, 07:44:36 AM »
SASS allowing the finger to be in the trigger guard is reinforcing a bad habit.  It is just wrong.
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Re: Trigger Finger Not Outside Trigger Guard ...
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2015, 10:12:29 AM »
SASS allowing the finger to be in the trigger guard is reinforcing a bad habit.  It is just wrong.
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Re: Trigger Finger Not Outside Trigger Guard ...
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2015, 11:10:58 AM »
HI Gang; We are not using a gun that needs to be manually cocked to fire. So we have to have a higher level of awareness of our auctions.
That makes sense to me and I have no problem with a penalty for having the finger inside the trigger guard.

However, I believe people try to conform to the rules. I try to follow all rules equally. Having MDQ for the finger in the trigger guard would not make me more likely to follow that rule than would a MSV. If the penalty is changed to a MDQ it would not affect my actions or participation.

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Re: Trigger Finger Not Outside Trigger Guard ...
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2015, 04:24:12 PM »
Could well be that allowing "finger in the trigger guard" is a root cause of some east Texas clubs going to the additionally very silly, local "plant and then poke" rule to prevent the ADs that were occurring with non-hammered double-barrel shotguns.
If folks maintained good trigger discipline, no ADs could occur while moving.

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Re: Trigger Finger Not Outside Trigger Guard ...
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2015, 04:56:55 PM »
Could well be that allowing "finger in the trigger guard" is a root cause of some east Texas clubs going to the additionally very silly, local "plant and then poke" rule to prevent the ADs that were occurring with non-hammered double-barrel shotguns.
If folks maintained good trigger discipline, no ADs could occur while moving.

Good luck, GJ

I don't think even that would justify the "plant and poke" rule. 

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