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vaquero

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Winchester 231
« on: July 22, 2015, 10:07:30 AM »
Found a good load for Wild Bunch, using WST, ran out, and could not find it.  Now I am using Winchester 231, don't have a chronograph, will 4.8 grs. of 231 behind a 200 gr. LSWC, shot from a full sized 1911, make power factor?  Thanks

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Re: Winchester 231
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2015, 05:00:04 PM »
Probably,  no guarantee!

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Re: Winchester 231
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2015, 05:10:59 PM »
I don't know,sounds to lite to me. Maybe seeking out a compadre with a chronograph would be the most prudent.  Dusty

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Re: Winchester 231
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2015, 07:01:14 PM »
I loaded some at 5.3 of 231, and the primers seemed a little flat.   I also loaded down to 4.6 , 4.8 , and 5.0.  The gun worked fine with each load.  I guess I will load at 4.9, and go with it.  Thanks

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Re: Winchester 231
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2015, 04:29:03 PM »
That's 'lite'-Try 5.5 gn of 231 w/200gn LSWC.
This has been my std .45acp practice load for over 40 yrs.
FWIW: 231/HP38 was developed for the GI .45acp load.
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Re: Winchester 231
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2015, 12:09:39 PM »
I haven't used it for a while but I loaded 4.8 gr of HP38 (same as 231) but it was behind a 230 gr RNBB and it turned a PF of 170 in my 1911.

You really need to chronograph your own loads with your own gun to be sure - and I would recommend that you don't have it too close to the minimum.

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Re: Winchester 231
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2015, 09:27:29 PM »
I've been using 5.7 grains of W231 with a 200 grain LSWC as my "Wild Bunch legal load". It averages out at 843.2 FPS (PF 168.4) and 811.8 FPS( PF 162.3) out here in Alberta in my Series '70. Legendary Lawman, See you and Serenity at Winter Range.

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Re: Winchester 231
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2015, 09:36:12 PM »
It should, according to my Winchester loading book, clock at about 800fps, producing a power factor of 160 with a 200gr bullet.
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Re: Winchester 231
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2015, 05:40:05 PM »
Update   I borrowed a chrongraph, and shot some loads past it.   I used 4.8gr. of 231...and 4.9gr of 231, all behind a 200 gr.LSWC bullet.  The results were all over the place, had about 47 FPS variance.    Some would have made the 150 power factor, and other...no way.  I traced the variance to the fact the some of the bullets had been loaded, about 3 times, and never been shot.  They were taken apart, reloaded, etc.  I think, every time I reloaded them, the crimp squished the bullet to a smaller diameter, causing inconsistent bullet pull.  I reloaded new bullets, behind 5.0gr. of 231, and all is well.   I took 5th place, in the Michigan Range war mini 4 stage match.