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Blackfoot

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Re: Miss or procedural The Whole Story
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2016, 05:51:15 AM »
Would the call be the same if the black targets were pistol and the white targets were rifle? kR

It really doesn't matter if they were black/white, round/square, near/far,  tall/short,  they were all to be shot with the pistol. 

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Re: Miss or procedural The Whole Story
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2016, 11:10:27 AM »
KR  YES. In the OP there was a 20 round shooting string. If it were two 10 round shooting strings (10 pistol, 10 rifle) there wouldn't be a "P". Just one miss for firing 9 rounds in the first 10 round string.
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Re: Miss or procedural The Whole Story
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2016, 03:50:49 PM »
I am glad to get confirmation that the correct call was a P and a Miss.  That was my call on the line but some were very vocal about it not being the correct call. 

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Re: Miss or procedural The Whole Story
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2016, 11:29:06 AM »
oops - double tap when none required.
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Re: Miss or procedural The Whole Story
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2016, 11:48:14 AM »
Yep, call would be the same.  Shooter was having problems getting his FIRST shot off.   He recovered by ejecting the faulty round and continuing with the (first) target that had not yet been shot.   But he failed to fire a 10th shot on the tenth target in the "black" bank, because he did not load a 3rd magazine, as would then be required for him to fire a 10th shot.   If he picked up a rifle and started shooting rifle targets because the instructions had called for that, he still would not have made any attempt to fire at the tenth black target.

And it SHOULD be the same call, by just pure logic and a desire to keep the rules simple and consistent.

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Re: Miss or procedural The Whole Story
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2016, 10:06:08 AM »
Hi,

I think PWB's instructions for a jacked out round in CAS for the rifle would apply to WBAS too. https://www.badmanbullets.com/oowss.com/SASS%20Rules%20Docs/Reload%20choices%20(edit%20Sept12).pdf

The shooter has the option of reloading immediately, 5th shot for the mag., or at the end of the string. The Barney Fife magazine would have been helpful in either case.

If he reloads immediately, the BF round would be on the fifth shot from that mag. black target. Then proceed with the scenario. Or he could insert a full 5 round mag. and pick up the last black target with the new mag., then follow the scenario, and insert the BF round at the end of the pistol.

What he did would just be a miss, if I understand the OP.

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Allie

PS I hope that made sense, if not just look at PWB's explanation.
PPS It would be helpful to use the same ejected round logic as PWB provided for an ejected rifle round, rather than having a different call for WBAS.
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Re: Miss or procedural The Whole Story
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2016, 10:22:19 AM »
PPS The WB RO manual, p. 20, has, under misses, "each unfired round." This shooter did not fire a round at the last black target. Otherwise, the sequence was correct.
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Re: Miss or procedural The Whole Story
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2016, 10:04:08 PM »
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PPS It would be helpful to use the same ejected round logic as PWB provided for an ejected rifle round, rather than having a different call for WBAS.

That's exactly what applies in WB too.  Makes it easy!   ;D


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Re: Miss or procedural The Whole Story
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2016, 05:58:11 PM »
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PPS It would be helpful to use the same ejected round logic as PWB provided for an ejected rifle round, rather than having a different call for WBAS.

That's exactly what applies in WB too.  Makes it easy!   ;D

Thanks for the reply Joe!

I think I misread some of the responses!  :-[
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