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  1. 18 points
    I have followed the recent posts that seem so divisive. The war of northern aggression, ending slavery, states rights, succession, freedom of speech, freedom of passage, basic human dignity. The war was and still is to many people, all these things. I do not pretend to know what is in your heart I come from a family steeped in this lore. The columns still stand in Beaufort where the house was burned away those long sad years ago, by Union calvary. My mothers side of our family. In Cheneyville Louisiana, growing up, the iron rings were still in the walls of the church where slaves were chained to hear the word of god. I still remember the 'colored only' bathrooms and water fountains of my youth. The 'War' had been over for 100 years when these daily injustices were taking place. The Ford family owned a slave that escaped named Solomon. He went on to write a book, Twelve Years a Slave. When the movie came out I got a call from a cousin who was concerned how it would make the family 'look'. I told him there was just no way to put a good spin on owning human beings. My fathers side of the family. Family gatherings are full of the 'what ifs' concerning the war. The war is long over but the tragic loss of 700,000 young men and boys still haunts me. The murder and rapes of families on both sides is appalling. Honor...where is honor in all this mahyem and blood? When I was so sick all I wanted was my wife by my side, to hug my granddaughter, who lives in California, and to strap on my leather again and hear that beep that makes my heart race. To be with the cowboys I have grown to love. To play this game again. The game we all love. I lived on the Wire trapped in bed on and off for weeks at a time for well over a year. The Wire became my lifeline. It is sad to see threads digress into nothing but bickering cloaked in the mantle of free speach. Life is so so precious. And so short and fragile. I do not pretend to know what is in your hearts. Hug your families...love your friends and laugh often!!! I did not post this thread to create a forum for more divisive commentary. Our moderators do a thankless and admirable job. Please lock this up if it goes sideways. I do not know what is in your hearts but you now know what is in mine. God bless...Jim No Horse
  2. 17 points
    I don't even have the words. What has been so great about this game for those of us that actually PARTICIPATE in it week after week was it was one of the very few places where one could actually not be politically correct. We all have feelings on certain subjects and we all have learned to live with those differences of opinion between ourselves. Sad day for sure.
  3. 16 points
    What I always love is the people who say we need to be more considerate of their views yet they refuse to be considerate of our views . We have to be tolerant of their opinion but they don't have to be tolerant of ours
  4. 16 points
    I DO NOT PIVOT, (dance, twist, shuffle,) when re-holstering my cross draw pistol! Never have. Never will, (so long as the rules remain as they are)!!!! If you stand correctly when shooting from a cross draw holster, THERE IS NO NEED to pivot, dance, twist, shuffle, or OTHERWISE contort or gyrate!! I wish this piece of misleading "Rule Book Interpretation" would go away once and for all!! Sorry 'bout the rant, folks! Just struck me the wrong way this time!!!
  5. 15 points
    Maybe it's time for me to get off the Wire, at least for a while. When folks can't let some thread or idea go because they are offended, they COULD just not read the thread or post any further!! Some of the things said by people who were "offended" were far more offensive than what they were complaining about in a couple of recent threads!! I may have said some things that weren't kind, but I meant no offense!! To be told that my actions were not "The Cowboy Way" after all this time was WORSE than offensive!! To have a couple of folks (2) dictate what is or isn't acceptable for the entire group is questionable policy. To be placed under a blanket or painted with that broad brush is MOST offensive!! DON'T GET ME WRONG!! I'm NOT questioning the Moderators and the performance of their duties. They have guidelines that MUST be adhered to!! They DON'T have a choice!! I have bitten my tongue on MANY more occasions both figuratively and literally than I care to count! I HAVE on occasion, questioned the moderators and their actions and have more often commended them, personally, for their efforts! But I don't remember EVER ruining another participant's shared humor!! If I thought it wasn't funny I just shrugged and moved on!!! We've prided ourselves in the past for being somewhat POLITICALLY INCORRECT! See my signature!! My upbringing and education forces me to call out those who accuse me of being racist!! I'M A REBEL!!! I stand for my right to honor those who fought with honor, regardless of which side they fought on!! Those people fought for a number of reasons, most of those reasons had little or nothing to do with slavery!! MOST fought for whichever side because they felt it was their DUTY!!! AND THAT, FOLKS, IS A HIGHER CALLING AND FAR MORE HONORABLE THAN ANYTHING ELSE!!! If we are going to start down this slippery slope, I don't know if I really want to be a part of it!! I'll be thinking about it!!
  6. 15 points
    I think the true issue here isn't the confederate battle flag and whether it's offensive. The real issue is whether people who are 'offended' have veto power over what everyone else says.
  7. 13 points
    Just a friendly comment or two. I think you and Allie are doing a great job, so this is not meant to be a criticism of either of you. From my perspective what happened with that thread is very close to what is called a hecklers veto. Someone doesn't like what's being said, so they shut it down, in this case by complaining. Taken to an extreme nobody can speak without offending someone and getting shut down (not that that's happened here yet). Would it be possible for the rest of us to see who posts these complaints? It seems to me that if someone is offended enough to want to silence someone else, they should be willing to do so publicly. If they're not offended enough to shed their anonymity then perhaps they should just move on to another thread?
  8. 12 points
    The hypocrisy of some... Ya Pay good money to join a club that shoots at silhouettes of Indians, and then feels offended by the displaying of symbols from our history. Just my humble observation. ..........Widder
  9. 12 points
    Keep in mind that I have never owned nor displayed the confederate battle flag. A couple of things to think about, first there a bunch of folks playing this game that were born and/or raised in the south. That flag means something to them entirely different than you describe. You would do well to understand their history and perspective about the reasons and causes of the civil war. Second, this is a game that somewhat recreates the history of the timeframe when that flag was actually used. Respectfully, Straight Arrow Hombre
  10. 12 points
    Whatever happened to "I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it"?
  11. 11 points
    Docs told me six and a half months ago that before they would replace my knees, I needed to lose a ton of weight and get my BMI below 40. As of this morning I have lost 137.45 pounds and my BMI is 39.8. Now to get the knees replaced! See my primary doc on Tuesday to get the referral started to the surgeon.
  12. 11 points
    I took a friend to a local modern gun type match today (Steel Challenge). It's a game I really enjoy. Anyway, we finished up late, about 2:15 or so when we left the range. We stopped on the way home at a local spot for lunch. Walked in all grimy, wearing shorts and a T-shirt. What did I hear? "Doc!" I looked over and there was Allie Mo finishing up drinks with Pinto Annie! Apparently Pinto Annie was just telling Allie Mo that she'd like to see Doc and Blackjack Traven while in town. BJT wasn't with me (we're going to meet Thursday after work for a beer). I haven't seen Pinto Annie since the OR state match in 2010. What a wonderful surprise to find out she was in town. She followed me back to the house and joined us for dinner and got to meet my wife for the first time. It's about the people. We make friends all over, and it's amazing to find them again unexpectedly. This really made my weekend.
  13. 10 points
    Howdy A few weeks ago I attended a local gun show. Medium sized, lots of tables. I really wasn't looking for anything special except I needed targets and I knew the guy I usually buy them from would probably be at this show. First stop I stopped at the table of a fellow S&W collector to see what he had for sale. He had a New Model #3 Target Model chambered for 32-44, the old target round. It did not function properly and I was not interested because that cartridge is no longer manufactured. Perhaps I could make up rounds from 32 S&W Long, but I really don't know. Anyway, I told him I really was not interested in it. He also had a Baby Russian in the box, but he wanted a lot of money for it, so I passed on that too. When I got to the guy selling targets I realized like a dope I had forgotten my checkbook. No problem says I, I have been spending too much on guns recently anyway. So I bought the targets with cash and moved on. A couple of more items interested me, but not enough to make an offer, besides, I did not have my checkbook. Then halfway through the show I spotted what I thought at first was a S&W Russian Model. I asked to see 'the Russian' but as I handled it I realized it was a New Model Number Three, and not a Russian. The dealer did not seem to know the difference, but I sure did. I inspected it very carefully. The finish had a good deal of wear, but the lock up was perfect, and the chambers and bores looked like it had just left the factory yesterday. I checked everything, checked everything for function and it was flawless. I asked him what he wanted for it, and he told me. Then I told him that like a dope I had forgotten my checkbook. He said he would be there all day. So I raced through the rest of the show, making sure there was not anything else I was interested in. Then I jumped in my car and drove home 45 minutes to retrieve my checkbook. Another 45 minutes back, paying again to enter the show, I hoped it was still there. It was. I was sure I had lost my bargaining position, since I was obviously panting to buy it. I asked again what he wanted, he gave me the same figure, and I asked if he would take $300 less. He said he would take $200 less and we sealed the deal. Then I ran home with my new treasure. A S&W New Model Number Three, chambered for 44 Russian. A little bit of snooping found it shipped in 1896. Since I fully intended to shoot it with Black Powder rounds, I stripped it down and did my normal preparation for a gun I intend to shoot with Black Powder rounds. Cleaned all the old oil and fouling out (there was very little fouling inside, I have since determined this gun has not been fired much). Then relubed everything with a light coating of Ballistol and buttoned it back up again. I had a box of my Black Powder 44 Russian rounds on hand, so the next day (Sunday) I took it to the range to see how well it would do. Not too shabby. The one flier was probably my fault, not the gun's. I fired about 40 rounds through it to give it a good workout. The trigger is very heavy, but other than that it worked flawlessly. (Disclaimer: Even though the target says 25 yard slow fire, I was shooting a whole lot closer than that) Took it home and cleaned it again that night. I posted a few photos on the S&W Forum. I got some interesting tidbits. It seems that there was a large shipment of this model to Japan in 1896, and the speculation is that this one was part of that shipment. That may square with the odd marking next to the lanyard ring, which may or may not be a Japanese acceptance stamp. There was a CAS match a week and a half ago. I decided it would be New Model Number Three day for me, since I already had a nickel plated 44 Russian NM#3 that left the factory in 1882. This one was refinished at the factory in 1965, so it looks brand new. Both revolvers got a thorough workout that day, both finished the day nice and sooty. A few days ago I sent off a request for a factory letter on the blued one, to find out for sure if it was part of that large shipment to Japan. It should be interesting what the letter says. The moral of the story is, you never know what you will find at a gun show, so don't forget your checkbook. Or maybe it was fate that I didn't have my checkbook when I found this gem?????
  14. 10 points
    Americans fought the British to gain their independence, but I see no need to reject everything British. Americans fought Native American (dare I say Indian) tribes, but I see no need to reject Indian symbols or culture. Soldiers of the Confederate Army were as American as their counterparts in the Union Army. We can respect the sacrifices both sides made. Displaying the Confederate flag does not indicate a desire to return to slavery, and those who believe this really need to get a grip.
  15. 10 points
    Trying to avoid politicizing this any further, but my ancestors and relatives fought as warriors in a number of conflicts in the past. From the 1600s to the 2000s...in the Great Lakes (vs the Sioux), French & Indian War (vs the British), American Revolution, NW Rebellion (vs Canada), American Revolution, BOTH sides in the CW (Missouri units), WWs I&II, Korea, Vietnam, on up to Iraq. I'm proud to honor those who stood for what they believed was right; whether "history" judged them to be "on the wrong side", win or lose.
  16. 10 points
    So I've got two gun carts under construction, one of them will commemorate the 10th cavalry aka: The Buffalo Soldiers and the other one will commemorate the generals of the confederacy. I guess both will be deemed offensive by some but where do you draw the line? Do you totally eliminate any reference to the Indian wars that were carried out by the U.S. government? I know a few folks that are offended by the fact that they are stuck on reservations, although the casino revenue seems to be helping ease the pain, but I'm pretty sure they'd like to have their ancestral lands back. So would me dressing as a cavalry trooper from that era be offensive enough to get my picture banned from the wire because someone is offended by anything related to what we did to native Americans? Where does it stop?
  17. 10 points
  18. 9 points
    Another post got me thinking about this. 1st year: What guns should I get? 5th year: My guns are holding me back. Who is the best gunsmith? 10th ten: My feet are killing me. Who makes the most comfortable boots?
  19. 9 points
    Hello Folks, The reason I locked the gun cart thread was more complex than just two complaints. I feared it would evolve into mud slinging and rude comments just like what happened on the "You Have to be Kidding" thread. I'm not a fan of some PC stuff and am deeply offended by the NFL protests and many political activities in our country today. Discussions about those things tend turn rude. This thread has been more civil than that other thread. Thank you. We have a wide variety of opinions and political viewpoints among SASS members. Those posting here just happen to be the vocal majority. At least, I believe they are the majority. That should not give you a free rein to insult others' views. It was before my time; but, I understand that insulting behavior led to banning political comments. You can say "the Wire isn't SASS." However, it is our face to the outside world. I'd like to keep it a nice place to visit and have it represent the kindness you encounter at a match. Regards, Allie
  20. 9 points
    Actually the Emancipation Proclamation didn't free any slaves. The proclamation only applied to slaves in states that had seceded from the union. Those states of the confederacy didn't abide by Lincoln's proclamation. The fact that slavery wasn't abolished in the north at any time during the war raises doubt that slavery was the cause of the war.
  21. 9 points
    Redwood! You obviously have not studied the reasons for that conflict as some of us have! The slavery issue was only ONE of MANY reasons for secession. The government of the UNION was taxing southern farmers as much as 40% in taxes for the things they produced. ALL of that tax money was being diverted to northern cities and states!! Many fought to save their land or family or friends Many of the states JUST WANTED OUT of the Union and Lincoln and the northern politicians new that the Union couldn't survive without the agriculture and tax income of the southern states. The subject of slavery wasn't even a major issue to the north until, THREE YEARS INTO THE WAR, with the north losing badly, Lincoln created the Emancipation Proclamation to make Slavery a "Holy WAR" issue. KEEP IN MIND!! The proclamation only applied to those states that had tried to leave the Union and that the Union states that held slavery as legal were NOT included! Maryland allowed slavery until well after the war's conclusion!!! NEXT !! Not ALL racists fly that flag!!! BLM doesn't fly that flag and they and most of their supporters are MORE racist than the highest Grand Wizard of the klan!!
  22. 9 points
    the civil war was fought over state's rights and unfair taxation.. the slaves weren't freed until 1863,, when Lincoln was afraid England would support the south, so to appease anti slavery england, he signed the Emancipation Proclamation....
  23. 9 points
    my great-great grandfather fought for the north, both of his brother were killed fighting for the north as was his mother while tending the wounded on both sides. if anyone should be offended by that flag it would be me, but am i? no. because my mother raised me to understand life is not fair, i will never agree with everyone as not everyone will agree with me, my feelings are going to get hurt, its how i handle these things the defines what kind of man i become. i have no right to tell what other people should do, say, worship or believe. the guys and gals in the club i shoot with look down on me because of my young age, i completely understand why, i don't know what they know, i have not experienced what they have experienced, i have not walked in their shoes as they have not walked in mine. do i let it bother me? no, because i have grown to accept the fact that people will judge me on my age, sex, race, hair style, etc... i try to get along with everybody but the b.s. division i see in this "land of the free" over a stupid flag or some 150 year old statues truly makes me sad. the political division brought on by the likes of BLM, ANTIFA, BHO,HRC and the like has now raised its ugly head here, on this forum, in this sport i love so much. before these "groups" and people told you to be offended you could not care less about some red white and blue rag with an X through the middle of it painted on the roof of some old ugly orange car or flying in front of some old rednecks house. the flag does not represent hate or bigotry, your reaction to it does. there are MEN on this forum and in this sport who may remember their relatives that fought in the war between the states. flying that flag doesnt mean they want to bring back slavery, it doenst mean they are racist, it doesnt mean they are hateful, it doesnt mean they are angry. but the people protesting a stupid piece of cloth and some hunks of copper because they are offended by them are the hateful, the angry ones, they are the ones destroying property, attacking counter protestrs and burning cities... why? what is so bad in your life that this takes precedent? what is so bad in your life that a statue or a flag makes you so angry? come on guys, there are lunatics with automatic weapons mowing down blue blooded hard working americans, there is a short fat little crazy man a few thousand miles away that can drop a thermonuclear weapon all the way to the EAST side of the mississippi river, almost into my back yard in WV, there are terrorists who's only goal in life is to cut your head off living among us. we americans are the target of these people and you want to fight among ourselves over a stupid 200 year old flag? come on man, focus on the real problems. stop fighting amongst yourselves over something so stupid. get together on the weekends and go ring some steel, we are all supposed to be friends here no matter what our political and geopolitical views are. we are all adults, now act like it.
  24. 8 points
    About twenty years ago I was with several shooting friends at a pistol shoot when they first spoke of Cowboy Action shooting. I must admit I was interested to give it a try with old guns. Needless to say I have been shooting SASS since. I have tried different classes, endured smoke obsecured targets and done some strange things in the name of bonus points but most importantly I have met some of the very finest people who in many cases I only know by a chosen alias. I have broken a gun on the line only to have some new friend step up and hand over their personal gun for me to use. I now own more cowboy hats than my closet can hold. Many years ago my son a junior shooter would shoot with me and it was a proudest moment to have him along. He is now a Marine overseas but asks about us going to a shoot together when he is back home "just for the fun" Recently health concerns have called into question about my future in the sport. Time will tell but I hope to be able to enjoy CAS. This weekend the WisconsinState Shoot is taking place "Mississippi Fandango" As much as I wanted to attend recent surgery has confined me close to the hospital. This afternoon I opened my email to find a video clip from the Fandango. A greeting from all the Cowboys and Cowgirls in the lodge. i can not express what this show of friendship has done for me. It truly brought tears to my eyes. All of these things and so many more is why I am a SASS participant. Thank you all!
  25. 8 points
    Last weekend we held our annual match, High Noon at Tusco. After the match numerous people came up to thank myself and Prairie Dawg for putting on a good match. Got to thinking about that and it just doesn't seem right that we get all the thanks and praise. As the President of the Club and Prairie Dawg Vice President, I understand why folks come to us to thank us. Really though from my eyes, we need to thank others. We might get all the ducks in the pond but without our volunteers at the range there is no chance those ducks get put into a row. From people like Split Rail and Stone Creek Drifter who fine tuned our stages to perfection. Using their experience to provide, to use Culpepper's term "A Championship Caliber Match". Blue Hare, who wasn't up to shooting the match, but came anyway and did all the scoring, so I could run a posse. Angie Oakley, who was a real workhorse, organizing and passing out awards, putting out water, planning a cookout at the range, etc. Baby Doll Blue, our photographer, who took a ton of photos from the weekend, including Posse Pictures, and photos for our charity calendar. Cheyenne Culpepper, without saying a word to him, took it upon himself to run people from the Camping area to the range with his 4-wheeler and wagon. Moosetracks, Raging Thunder, Hooligan Howes, Corbin Dallas, and others who pulled targets for setup, ran side matches, ran the timer, etc. Laporte Lefty and his wife Donna, who volunteered to do anything. Dewey Shootem and Six Gun Seamus who seemed to be able to read my mind and just jumped in and did things that needed doing. Our host Club, the Tusco Rifle Club, who provides us with a beautiful range to use. Who actually want to work with us instead of making things difficult like some other clubs have to deal with. Not to mention Prairie Dawg himself.. not even going to begin listing what he does... I know I am missing folks (and I apologize) but this really isn't my point to thank my help, which is greatly appreciated, it's to share my point of view from running a club. We might get everything planned but without all of the help, there is no way, things get done. Without the shooters showing up, there is NO point at all. So when you attend a big match, make sure you thank the "Help" as well. Don't be afraid to jump in and ask "what needs done?". The more I hear folks tell us "We had a great time this weekend" the harder I want to work to make sure we keep providing just that and believe me we need our "HELP" to reach that goal. Buckaroo Bubba
  26. 8 points
  27. 8 points
    The real sadness of it all is that Southern generals and the government surrendered and were, ostensibly, "welcomed back" into the Union. THEN, opportunists and unscrupulous politicians created and instituted "RECONSTRUCTION", a pseudonym for occupation and tyrannical oppression!! Many of the scars left from that evil remain to this day. The treatment of southern people and southern states set reconciliation back to a point where it STILL has not completely recovered. Legal land holders and their families were driven from their ancestral homes, farms, and businesses. Honorable men were tortured, imprisoned, and even murdered simply because they served in the Confederate military. People who had sworn allegiance to the Union and returned to legal citizenship!! Most who survived reconstruction never got back what was theirs!! So if some of you wonder why many still honor and display Confederate flags and artifacts proudly, it could be that many feel they were never welcomed back and that they were and are considered second class citizens by those who preach tolerance but are, in truth, much less than tolerant!! I'm well educated and well read. I'm mostly polite and I usually display proper manners where the situation calls for them, but there have been a number of times where I have been made light of and ridiculed after speaking in the slight southern drawl that I normally use!! When I attended schools in the northeast, I encountered teachers who reprimanded me for using the courtesy of saying "yes Ma'am" and "no Sir" and who tried to force me to take speech therapy because of the southern drawl!! My parents, on one occasion, were denied access to a a rental house because of my mother's accent. I learned, VERY EARLY, that I'd better laugh it off or be ready to fight. Others learned, at the same time, that I was willing to accommodate then in either instance!! If my father or mother EVER caught me not showing respect, (Yes, Sir.) I could expect punishment. I've brought my son up the same way. He's a MAN!! We've both been known to fly or display artifacts of the old Confederacy. Many of our friends of other races respect the reasons we do it, and just as he and I have battled for their rights and their protection, they do the same for us!!! It's a shame the rest of the world can't find that kind of peace!!! From Bob Seger: 'Til you've been beside a man, You don't know what he wants. You don't know if he cries at night. You don't know if he don't. When nothing comes easy, Old nightmares are real. 'Til you've been beside a man, You don't know how he feels!!
  28. 8 points
  29. 8 points
    Weren't both sides in the War of Northern Aggression still all Americans?
  30. 8 points
    Pick one (SASS rules are a combination of some of these options, dependent on the section cited): There are four Government Models in Europe: The English Model - All is permitted, except that which is forbidden. The German Model - All is forbidden, except that which is permitted. The Russian Model - All is forbidden, including that which is permitted. The French Model - All is permitted, including that which is forbidden. or Everything that is not forbidden is compulsory
  31. 8 points
    Early in my SASS career my wife wanted to see what I do at a cowboy shoot. We brought along our 8 month old daughter and gave her hearing protection so she wouldn't be startled. Fast forward 15 years that same girl, Abi Oakley is the Heluva Rukus 2017 New York State Ladies Young Gun Champion. I am so very proud of my babygirl. I had to share and brag a little.
  32. 7 points
    I have received this e-mail from a bunch of people. No football games for me. An open letter to the NFL players, You graduated high school in 2011. Your teenage years were a struggle. You grew up on the wrong side of the tracks. Your mother was the leader of the family and worked tirelessly to keep a roof over your head and food on your plate. Academics were a struggle for you and your grades were mediocre at best. The only thing that made you stand out is you weighed 225 lbs and could run 40 yards in 4.2 seconds while carrying a football. Your best friend was just like you, except he didn’t play football. Instead of going to football practice after school, he went to work at McDonalds for minimum wage. You were recruited by all the big colleges and spent every weekend of your senior year making visits to universities where coaches and boosters tried to convince you their school was best. They laid out the red carpet for you. Your best friend worked double shifts at Mickey D’s. College was not an option for him. On the day you signed with Big State University , your best friend signed paperwork with his Army recruiter. You went to summer workouts.. He went to basic training. You spent the next four years living in the athletic dorm, eating at the training table. You spent your Saturdays on the football field, cheered on by adoring fans. Tutors attended to your every academic need. You attended class when you felt like it. Sure, you worked hard. You lifted weights, ran sprints, studied plays, and soon became one of the top football players in the country. Your best friend was assigned to the 101st Airborne Division. While you were in college, he deployed to Iraq once and Afghanistan twice. He became a Sergeant and led a squad of 19 year old soldiers who grew up just like he did. He shed his blood in Afghanistan and watched young American's give their lives, limbs, and innocence for the USA . You went to the NFL combine and scored off the charts. You hired an agent and waited for draft day. You were drafted in the first round and your agent immediately went to work, ensuring that you received the most money possible. You signed for $16 million although you had never played a single down of professional football. Your best friend re-enlisted in the Army for four more years. As a combat tested sergeant, he will be paid $32,000 per year. You will drive a Ferrari on the streets of South Beach . He will ride in the back of a Blackhawk helicopter with 10 other combat loaded soldiers. You will sleep at the Ritz. He will dig a hole in the ground and try to sleep. You will “make it rain” in the club. He will pray for rain as the temperature reaches 120 degrees. On Sunday, you will run into a stadium as tens of thousands of fans cheer and yell your name. For your best friend, there is little difference between Sunday and any other day of the week. There are no adoring fans. There are only people trying to kill him and his soldiers. Every now and then, he and his soldiers leave the front lines and “go to the rear” to rest. He might be lucky enough to catch an NFL game on TV. When the National Anthem plays and you take a knee, he will jump to his feet and salute the television. While you protest the unfairness of life in the United States , he will give thanks to God that he has the honor of defending his great country. To the players of the NFL: We are the people who buy your tickets, watch you on TV, and wear your jerseys. We anxiously wait for Sundays so we can cheer for you and marvel at your athleticism. Although we love to watch you play, we care little about your opinions until you offend us. You have the absolute right to express yourselves, but we have the absolute right to boycott you. We have tolerated your drug use and DUIs, your domestic violence, and your vulgar displays of wealth. We should be ashamed for putting our admiration of your physical skills before what is morally right. But now you have gone too far. You have insulted our flag, our country, our soldiers, our police officers, and our veterans. You are living the American dream, yet you disparage our great country. I am done with NFL football and encourage all like minded Americans to boycott the NFL as well. National boycott of the NFL for Sunday November 12th, Veterans Day Weekend. Boycott all football telecast, all fans, all ticket holders, stay away from attending any games, let them play to empty stadiums. Honor our military, some of whom come home with the American Flag draped over their coffin. --
  33. 7 points
    Amen! I to have been laid up for long periods of time, thank the maker none have been life threatening! On my dad's side we had good men fighting on both sides, both sides fighting for what they thought was right and just. No slaves were ever owned, one side fresh off the boat from Ireland the other fighting with Stand Watie. As a history teacher the civil war is my favorite time to teach and I teach it from all perspectives, I have my students read and research men and women from each side and why the choose to fight on the side they did, it gives the kid a different perspective of the war. I grew up on army bases during the 60s but I never saw segregation until we drove through town in Georgia and south Carolina, I never understood why my best friends could go to the movies with me one base but not in town, until I studied it on my own. The wire is chocked full of great topics and great people. But I have caught myself not answering a post or two for fear of how others will respond! I have received way to many terse responses or seen way to many terse responses to people's questions. Not everyone knows the rule book like the back of their hand, some people want to find answers to questions from the more experienced members so they don't make the same mistakes. Yes there are some who just want to stir the pot and a few who like to make others feel small but most of us are great people. My boss has had to speak to me about emails I have sent to parents, while nothing was wrong with them it was how they could have been read that was the point. He always says you cannot read tone in an email. Now I always think about how I would feel if I was on the other side of the email or post before I hit send, and most the time I re-edit my response, some might take that to thought. Wow this went longer than I expected, thanks for the post Jim! It allowed me to put into words what I have been thinking for awhile, life is to short to live with regrets, we need to get back to saying hi to strangers, holding doors open for folks, tipping your hat to people you just met and just being nice. Rafe
  34. 7 points
    About 2 weeks back, Pat Riot found this T-shirt that read..... "Trust Me I'm A JEDI". Well, he sent it to me and I was so proud of it, that I told him I would make it my Avatar. Thanks PAT. Ya done good. ..........Widder
  35. 7 points
    A Sincere Thank You to our Moderators. While driving to work this morning, thinking about the recent posts and events on the wire. I wanted to take the time this morning before my busy day starts, to thank all the moderators on the Wire for the thankless job that they perform for us each and every day. Quite frankly I skip 70% – 80% of the post that I don’t find interesting or don’t apply to me, but you folks have to read or scan all of them. Then fielding all the complaints or having to justify weather or not a post meets the guidelines that have been laid out for all of us and what to do with them. Well I know it must be a thankless job so …. THANK YOU for your services. Tree
  36. 7 points
    some folks find the battle flag offensive because a few people use it as a symbol of hate, so no one should fly it.....kinda like how some demons use guns to commit crimes so no one should be allowed to own one???.......
  37. 7 points
    Lighten up Francis If it wasn't an issue-Why did you keep stir'n the pot? Who was it that called you 'names'? No one, knew it was YOU. We sure have a strong idea of who the other complainant was. You're the one that bragged about making the complaint. Until then, it WAS anonymous. You yourownself, opened the door and 'fanned' those flames. CSA and the history that goes with it, is very strong in SASS. Better get use to it and learn to accept it. If you can't accept that fact-Then maybe this isn't the 'gun-game' you want to be involved with. Carry on- OLG
  38. 7 points
    well , well , folks looking for a reason to be offended just get in line , I will get to ya sooner or later just because you disagree with some thing , DOES NOT , make your opinion more valid than anyone else Chickasaw Bill
  39. 7 points
    I use the Claybuster gray wads. For 7/8, CB-0178-12 and haven't had any grief with AA hulls, also use 'em in STS hulls.
  40. 7 points
    Plenty of info to make a call. It is a no call. An extra round was loaded to replace a round that failed to fire. The user is allowed to do that with a revolver. User is NOT allowed to leave an unfired round under the hammer. That would be a SDQ if they did that. ULT officer helped shooter check, and found the unfired round was NOT under the hammer. Here's one spot that cites the penalty. Since user loaded an extra round, he does not even get the miss. See the Shooters Choices crib sheet. Good luck, GJ
  41. 7 points
    As with anything proper education of how to use one effectively will result in a more desirable outcome. And everyone will stay safe. Personally would not mind seeing one on the range and we used to see them more often. The game could certainly use some style injected back into it. 11 to 15 second stages are fun and cool but not why a LOT of us got into playing cowboy.
  42. 7 points
  43. 6 points
    When Kaepernick started this last season he specifically stated that he could not respect a flag that represented what ours does. To me that is disrespect. But beyond that, the Constitution only says that the "government" shall make no laws regarding speech, protest, etc. Private companies however can make rules restricting their employees actions while working. Unless the state the company is located in makes other rules. SO while you have a right to protest, there may be consequences for that protest. I believe every team owner has the right to say to the players, if you want to remain employed by me then this is what you can and cannot do. Except in states that have unfortunately taken that away from the owners. What I find upsetting is that those supporting the protest are trying to say that they have the right to protest, but I don't have the right to protest what they are doing. If I protest against what they are doing, I'm wrong/racist/bigot/unfair and whatever other -ism or -ist they can think of. You want to protest? Fine, go for it. But don't tell me that I cannot protest what you're doing or how you"re doing it.
  44. 6 points
    Obviously this young man is much more intuitive, well taught, and more intelligent than some people twenty years his senior who make millions of dollars in the NFL. Many kudos to his parents and family. Heartwarming and promising is where that picture starts.
  45. 6 points
    Bump cartridge sounds like something that an uninformed, motor mouthed reporter said when they felt the urge to keep talking after they had said all that they knew. Blackfoot
  46. 6 points
    Those hate groups certainly have perverted the Southern Heritage, most notably by using the flag for their own purposes. That is unfortunate and shameful. Hatred has a way of perverting a lot of things. But I'm willing to bet that tens of thousands of men who fought and died under the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia did not have the hatred in their heart that the hate groups today have. They were fighting for their own personal reasons none of which we can possibly know today, but I seriously and highly doubt they were motivated by what hate groups today are fueled by. I won't sit here and minimize the sacrifice all those men made in The War of Northern Aggression war just because of the perversion recent groups have enabled the flag to be surrounded in. He (the SC church shooter) did it as an individual based on his own interpretation and understanding of what that flag meant to HIM. Others will see it the same way BUT many others DO NOT see it (the Confederate flag) that same way. I postulate that those many others who do not see it the same way that the murderous shooter did are looking upon that flag with their proud Southern Heritage and choosing their own reasons why they want to keep the spirit of the flag alive. No doubt that southern spirit that is alive and well today has nothing to do with hate-mongering that unfortunately now surrounds that flag in meaning for some. I am certainly not speaking for anybody in particular but I will not generalize and stereotype any one particular meaning for so many people out there who have their own reasons for still defending the flag and their Southern Heritage together for believable, rational, legitimate Southern reasons. There are people on this message board who cite their staunch feelings for that flag. And I have yet to hear any member of this board utter a hateful word about what meaning they find in the flag. I am not bashing the flag nor defending it. I'm only observing what I have seen and heard others say and post. The flag means a lot of things to a lot of people and I will not speak for any of them personally. In all fairness I cannot and should not. However I'm not going to denigrate somebody for a seemingly legitimate reason that those individuals today can intellectually articulate who still hold a fondness or a proudness in their heart for that flag.
  47. 6 points
    I hope the kepi's my daughter and I were wearing in that photo offend too. I truly do. It's family history that I will not deny nor hide.
  48. 6 points
    Wrong. I display that symbol to honor their service, bravery, and sacrifice. You'll not take that away from me. Lord help us, where do I sign up for P.O.O.P?
  49. 6 points
    Sarurday night still life I calls it.
  50. 6 points
    At today's match I had four cowpokes tell me the confederate flag on my cart offended them. In response to their concerns this is what I'm wearing at the next match!