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Garrison Joe, SASS #60708

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    Albuquerque NM
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    shooting, hiking, hunting, fishing, Scouting, building, gun smithing, wood working. NRA Rifle & Shotgun Instructor and RSO. NRA Life-Endowment.

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  1. 97Forend

    Taz does a bunch of that. MD did a fantastic job on one of mine. Too bad he's out of that line now. Good luck, GJ
  2. 200 RNFP vs 230 FN LBT in 45 Colt.

    Yes, necessarily true. Only by dropping the heavy slug to a much lower velocity do you get the same recoil. Here's some data from Chuck Hawks web site on pistol recoil. A .45 Colt firing a 200 grain slug at 945 FPS has 7.0 ft-lbs recoil energy and a recoil velocity of 12.8 FPS A 230 grain slug at 936 FPS (just slightly slower) has 7.9 ft-lbs and recoil velocity of 13.6 The recoil energy of heavier slug is 13% higher. And recoil velocity also 6% higher. https://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_recoil_table.htm Another check, using the recoil calculator at http://www.shooterscalculator.com/recoil-calculator.php .45 Colt, 200 grain slug, at 700 FPS has 3.6 ft-lb recoil energy and 9.6 FPS recoil velocity .45 Colt, 230 grain slug, at 700 FPS has 4.5 ft-lb and 10.7 FPS At same velocity, the heavier slug has 25% more recoil energy. Now, how slow would you have to down the heavier bullet load to get the same recoil energy? .45 Colt 230 grain slug, at 610 FPS, gives 9.6 FPS recoil velocity. There is a practical limit to how little powder you can load in a large case (like .45 Colt). You start getting inconsistent pressures and even squibs. There are a few powders that can do 630 FPS reliably with a 230 grain slug in .45 Colt. There are a bunch that will be consistent with a 200 grain slug at 700 FPS. Another reason why pards looking for a consistent low power .45 caliber load have made a jump to the Cowboy .45 Special cartridge. Consistent light loads are easy with that cartridge. Good luck, GJ
  3. Help with some formulas needed.

    Clays would be ideal for what you are going to load. Pretty easy to find. I'll PM you loads that are good with Clays and light bullets if you drop me a note. Plus, Hodgdon has lots of data on-line, most of it can get down to good Cowboy velocities. Good luck, GJ
  4. Lost Brass match or not???

    Boy Scout Troop 285 (Albuquerque) is committed to brass pickup for WB all three match days. Bring your tip money. That is what they work for! YOU will get YOUR brass and hulls back at the unloading table. Good luck, GJ
  5. Uberti 73 rifle loading gate

    VTI Gun Parts would have a hardened gate mounting screw, but you probably would only change that screw once in 20 years of hard use. Besides, those screws come in at least 2 different sizes, so you have to get the right one. I'd locktite it in place - make it as snug as you dare. Good luck, GJ
  6. Poor Man’s 66 & ’73 Action Job...........Does it still work

    Generally, no, you don't want to take spring lightening or swapping to the point where it makes the gun less reliable. It should be getting quite a bit smoother and lighter to cycle, however. So, those would be GOOD operating differences. If you lighten to the point that only Federals will fire reliably, you have not done a "great job" in my book. And that would be a bad difference. Those super strong springs that the factory installed are there because that allows Uberti to be less careful in removing machining burs and surface roughness, and in getting a good fit between various parts. Part of any spring lightening MAY require some deburring, polishing and fitting of internal parts. Exactly where, is generally driven by years of experience. Sometimes you can open the gun and spot the rough areas and poor fit, but it is SO much easier if the person looking is also the one with the experience. The one spring you did not list, which makes getting lever closed much easier, is to replace the lever safety spring (a leaf spring) with a coil torsion spring. Very cheap and very easy to do, and that would make a big difference in getting the lever closed the last half inch or so. Many of the parts suppliers have this "mousetrap" spring. As we HAVE said many times on this forum, most of our cowboy guns are "parts kits, already assembled" rather than the high-speed perfectly fitted guns that a good smith can turn them into. We all hope you can learn enough to do well by your gun, whether you learn from good smiths or by your own experience. Good luck, GJ
  7. Poor Man’s 66 & ’73 Action Job...........Does it still work

    Lightening the mainspring, lifter and lever springs by hourglassing or careful thinning - sure, some folks use that approach. But it's not as good a result, nor as quick to do as what the posts above refer you to do. It's MOSTLY the mainspring that needs to be quite a bit lighter if you have difficulty running the lever. Good luck, GJ
  8. loading 44wcf on a Dillion 650/1050?

    That would be the LAST thing I would consider trying if trying to get a good BP load into a .44-40. A solid and firm roll crimp works real well in my loads, applied with a Redding profile crimp die. A 1050 is appropriate for really high volume loading. From what I have read, even commercial BP loaders use a fairly simple progressive press for loading BP cartridges, because of the crud factor with loading BP and soft lube, the potential explosion risk, and the small volume they sell just does not support $1500 or more of equipment. Anything CAN PROBABLY be done. Not everything will make a lot of sense. Good luck, GJ
  9. Poor Man’s 66 & ’73 Action Job...........Does it still work

    Running lots of ammo through a 73 with the stock lifter and lever leaf springs in it, even if lightened, can damage the lever where the tip of the lever spring rides on it. It's not the time to go real cheap or you can have to put more into repairs in a few months than good parts replacement and a little smoothing will cost. Find you a good Cowboy smith and take care of the rifle - probably the most expensive purchase you will be making for Cowboy shooting. Good luck, GJ
  10. RSVP For upcoming shoots

    So set up an application for the match, put it online, ask folks to mail it or email a filled in app scan. You get the money early and the cook can plan! Decide if you will take day-of-match signups ahead of time. If you won't, and you don't tell pards that, you WILL have disappointment by the bucketfull. If you are talking about a normal club monthly, well, look back over the last year of match results and take a "high water mark" of shooters that have attended. Then apply your best guess and tell the cook. Add 5%-10% to be sure. Good luck, Gj
  11. RSVP For upcoming shoots

    If the match does such things themselves, sure CAN be done. Usually only big matches do that. EoT, WR, Arizona State (Bordertown), some other state matches and above. Just have to check the web site of the host club/organization. With BT, by the time the list is posted, the match has been full for a week, so it won't help you if you are "match cherry picking." Of course, if a match registers only on day of shoot, nothing like that can be offered. Good luck, GJ
  12. How many have actually seen cheating?

    I have been on a posse where there were several actions by a shooter that were violations of stage instructions and even SASS rules, that were regularly "argued down" by the shooter and family members when those actions were called out, and where family members insisted on timing for the member to override any penalty calls. The situation was well handled by the posse marshal and match officials, and we have not seen any of the family since. A well earned salute to those corrections made years ago. Good luck, GJ
  13. Spotters and the .36

    Often seems spotters are eager to call a miss rather than admit they didn't really see something. Remember the mantra! If you are are not seeing well, or things are going too fast for you to be sure, hand off the stick. Good luck, GJ
  14. stevens 315 "doubling"

    Well, then you're down to: Either real dirty trigger mechanism, misadjusted, Because it's a good, solidly designed gun. Betcha Johnny Meadows could do some magic on it! Any single trigger lower end shotgun has high likelihood of not being well adjusted - especially after a hundred years. Either they double or one barrel is reluctant to fire at all. It's usually the switching mechanism, containing small latches and springs that need a little TLC. Good luck, GJ
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