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Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933

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About Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933

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  1. Could you pm me the pics please ?



  2. Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933

    Pedersoli lightning

    Here is one of my Lightning pushers. This one is made from a .30-30 and some aluminum rod. Fits in a cartridge loop.
  3. I have been trying to get more information but the Match Director for the WB match is out of town.  Basically the WB side matches are not in the schedule because the WB shooters decided a few years ago that only people signed up for the WB match should be able to shoot the WB side matches.  So, the side matches have basically become an ad hoc affair.  Depending on how tired people are they hold the side matches on Monday, Tuesday, or both after the match shooting for the day has ended.  They use props and targets that we do not include in the regular side matches and decide what they want to shoot themselves.  Since only WB shooters can shoot the WB side matches the shooters just spread the word among themselves.  This year there are 133 shooters signed up for the WB match which is the most that have ever shot the WB match anywhere in the world.

    1. Back 40 #23910 L

      Back 40 #23910 L

      Thanks Larsen, I greatly appreciate your response.

  4. Larsen, I've been reading about the expansion of classes into sub categories, provided the numbers exist.  Will you be offering Elderstatesman Duelist or Silver Senior Duelist at WR?. How many will you need if either is offered?  I am Currently signed up  for WR as a Senior Duelist, because at the time there was nothing more offered, but at age 71 could qualify for either Elderstatesman Duelist or Silver Senior Duelist, if offered.......and would be willing to make the switch...


    Your thoughts please.  Thank you  Rootin Tootin 21707

  5. I'm thinking of making a 7 1/2 Ruger Vaquero. I have a barrel from a new model Blackhawk that will fit an Old Model Vaquero but want a blade front site since it needs to be a Vaquero with a 7 1/2 barrel to be legal for SASS.

    Duece shoots 7 inchers that he built and thought I'd try and build one to see if there is any benefit over my 5 1/2's 

    That's  why the question. 



  6. after pouring off the dirty water, rinsing and pouring off the rinse water I just pour the brass and SS pellet mix into the separator and start turning. I see no need for putting water into the separator. My separator has a Claim Shell type top that closes and keeps all the SS pellets inside. After a few turns, I just pour the pellets back in the tumbling drum, ready for a new batch of dirty cases. You are gonna LOVE the results you get with the wet tumbling. Just for your information,  99% of my brass cleaning is on Straight walled cases such as 38 spl and 32 H&R, and I have no problem with pellets hanging inside the cases. I doubt that you will have any problem with the slight necked down 44-40. It might become a problem with some highly necked down rifle cases. However I did some 7.69 X 39 cases and had no problem.

  7. Larsen,

    When Lipseys had a special run of New Vaqueros in .44 Spl, I purchased a set of stainless steel from Long Hunter.  Now, I've always wanted to shoot .44-40 and planned to have custom cylinders made by Gary Reeder, but I decided to check with the Ruger service centre here in Canada to see if I could get another set of .44 Spl cylinders from them.  I could so I bought a pair which they fit to my guns.  After I got them guns with their new cylinders back, I sent them to a gunsmith I know who reamed them out for .44-40.  Now I can shoot either caliber but for the past 3 years have exclusively shot .44-40.  So when Ruger says the New Vaqueros can't be chambered for .44-40, they aren't correct.

    Kananaskis Kid

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    2. Kananaskis Kid, SASS #62402

      Kananaskis Kid, SASS #62402

      I'm not sure which brand of .44-40 brass has the maximum size rim, but every brand of .44-40 brass I use fits; I use Winchester and Starline most.  Every part of my guns was made by Ruger, the only "customization" was the reaming out of a New Vaquero .44 Spl cylinder to .44-40.  There isn't a lot of space between the cartridge rims, but they don't touch; everything loads smoothly.

    3. Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933

      Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933

      Again, no brand has the maximum size rim by design.  It is a matter of tolerance stacking and tool wear.  I have several .44-40 guns and ammo from one won't necessarily work in another depending on the bullet OD and case brand used.  I have standardized on the original bullet size of .427.  This fits all of my current guns.  I have .44-40s that vary from .423 to .432.  In the old days SAAMI did not exist so the dimensions for the chambers and cases were/are not uniform.  I have had the worse luck with Remington and CBC.  Both of those frequently have rims that won't fit in some of my guns or stick in the shell plates on my reloading presses.  So, I now only use Winchester or Starline brass.  They have the thinnest case necks and seem relatively consistent for rim size.  As an example, suppose the reamer your smith used was towards the maximum.  That would allow the cases to move outward from the centerline and give the rims a tiny bit more space.  A tighter chamber with wider rims and they would be a no go.

    4. Kananaskis Kid, SASS #62402

      Kananaskis Kid, SASS #62402

      The reamer used by my gunsmith was a new one from Mason, one for which I paid half.  So maybe the chambers were more toward the maximum.  All the bullets I load are .429 RNFP, usually as I previously mentioned, in Winchester or Starline brass.  Use these rounds in my Rugers as well as my Marlin Cowboy Limited and new Winchester from Miroku.  Love the .44-40.

  8. Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933

    SAA help needed!

    1. You need to slowly cock the hammer and see when the bolt comes up. It should pop up at the lead-in notch. If it is early or late or mushy you need to describe the problem better. 2. Take a LITTLE material off the lower finger on the hand/pawl. It only takes a stroke or two with a sharp file to make the difference.
  9. Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933

    What is a Hoot Sweep

    I could tell you, but if I did I would be banned from the wire.🤔
  10. Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933

    SASS New Vaquero Question

    Hole where detent is fitted. ({Punch in hole to show where it is.) Detent, spring, and set-screw. To me the easier loading and unloading more than offsets any perceived benefits of the reverse spin. Unless I am installing s short stroke I leave them in.
  11. Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933

    Black Powder Shotgun Shells

    There is virtually zero market for BP shotshells, especially 20 gauge shells. Even in SASS, which is one of the few places BP shotshells are used, there are VERY few people using 20 gauge BP shells. You say you need 6 to 10 boxes. That is going to run around $120.00 to $200.00. If you buy a Lee loader for $45.00 and then load 10 boxes you will be money ahead. Here is one source that advertises them and had some in the past. I don't know if they have any in stock. http://www.ows-ammo.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=125
  12. Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933

    SASS New Vaquero Question

    They have a reverse pawl to help align the chambers with the loading gate. To get this alignment correct it has a spring loaded detent that engages the ratchet teeth. Cock the hammer and look in the hammer channel and you can see the set screw that holds in the spring and detent. If you remove the detent in many cases the reverse pawl will work. In some cases it may require a little more work for it to allow the cylinder to turn fully backwards. Two reasons are typically given for removing the detent. First, if you have a high primer sometimes you can back it up far enough to clear the jam. Key word, sometimes. Checking for high primers is not something people should be doing while firing or at the loading table. It should be done at home as part of your ammo inspection. The second reason is that it might help with a reload. For the past several years reloads on-the-clock have become more and more rare at SASS matches, especially matches above the club level. Even with the reverse feature a lot of people screw up the reload anyway because they don't practice reloads. So, for 99.9% of shooters the reverse spin is of little or no value.
  13. Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933

    Caliber / Power Categories?

    Kind of irrelevant with a 60 power factor.
  14. Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933

    Special Cowboy pens for SASS members only

    Can't see anything. Asking me to sign in to something I know nothing about.
  15. Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933

    Found Some! Remington STS shotshells at WR

    There is a Sportsman's Warehouse just south of Ben Avery off I-17.

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