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Wild Bunch Rules Forum / Re: Loading 8 rounds in 1911 mags
« Last post by Boggus Deal on September 13, 2019, 01:42:04 PM »
We are continually struggling to make the handbooks easier to understand and more precise!
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Wild Bunch Rules Forum / Re: Loading 8 rounds in 1911 mags
« Last post by Legendary Lawman on September 13, 2019, 01:36:54 PM »
Abe
Totally agree with you.  Stay tuned :)
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Wild Bunch Rules Forum / Re: Loading 8 rounds in 1911 mags
« Last post by Abe E.S. Corpus on September 13, 2019, 01:18:03 PM »
I asked this question in December but I must not have phrased it clearly.

I am not advocating for the right to load eight rounds but if it is the intent of the Committee that an eighth round cannot be used without penalty a revision or clarification is needed.
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Wild Bunch Rules Forum / Re: Loading 8 rounds in 1911 mags
« Last post by Legendary Lawman on September 13, 2019, 12:07:26 PM »
 The WB Rules Committee has had a goal of trying to simplify the rules and particularly to reduce unnecessary penalties.  In 2019 the penalty for overloading a 1911 magazine was eliminated.  As Boggus Deal also stated, the shooter only earns a penalty if they shoot more than 7 rounds from a magazine.  Shooting an eighth round from the magazine would be “use of illegally acquired ammunition” for the eighth shot.

When the committee eliminated the overloading penalty, it was not realized that it needed to be replaced by a “rule” stating that you could only load 7 rounds in the magazine.  That sounds complicated in that there is a “rule” but no penalty for overloading (unless you use the overloaded round).  We already have that intent for the rifle.  However, the rifle is different because there is only one magazine.  Obviously, the rule book needs to have a clarification which will be posted by Happy Jack after review by the WB Rules Committee.

In the meantime, WB shoots should be governed by the posted rule that 1911 magazines will have 7 rounds.  Any overloaded round will not be a penalty unless it is used by the shooter.
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Wild Bunch Rules Forum / Re: Loading 8 rounds in 1911 mags
« Last post by Abe E.S. Corpus on September 12, 2019, 02:40:16 PM »
It is my understanding that as a result of the elimination of the rule that set a maximum number of rounds in a magazine that a shooter may load eight and use eight, even though pistol strings are patterned on multiples of eight. 

Assume the stage instructions call for a 14 round double tap sweep.  Under the 2018 rule, the shooter was limited to 7 rounds in a magazine.  Choices were to shoot seven, reload from slide lock and shoot seven, interrupting the double tap between rounds 7 and 8, or shoot six, perform a tactical reload and shoot eight.

I think the 2019 rules provide a third option:  load first magazine with eight rounds, shoot to slide lock, reload and shoot six.

Do I want to keep track of magazines loaded with different numbers of rounds?  Maybe not, but I think this would be legal under the 2019 SHB.
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Wild Bunch Rules Forum / Re: Loading 8 rounds in 1911 mags
« Last post by Bootless Bob on September 12, 2019, 02:12:38 PM »
You can load and shoot 8 round mags with a flat bottom but you can only put 7 cartridges in them. ;D

That was my understanding but where in the SHB does it state that?  I searched the document and found nothing.
It is in the pistol requirements starting on page 4.

I don't think there's a reference to loading 7 rounds any more in the 2019 rule book.  The 2018 handbook said on page 7 "Magazines shall be loaded with up to seven rounds only. A shooter may load LESS
than seven rounds in a magazine.", that is pretty clear.  In the 2019 handbook there is no mention of loading magazines. 
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Wild Bunch Rules Forum / Re: Loading 8 rounds in 1911 mags
« Last post by Flash on September 12, 2019, 12:50:37 PM »
You can load and shoot 8 round mags with a flat bottom but you can only put 7 cartridges in them. ;D

That was my understanding but where in the SHB does it state that?  I searched the document and found nothing.
It is in the pistol requirements starting on page 4.
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Wild Bunch Rules Forum / Re: Loading 8 rounds in 1911 mags
« Last post by Bootless Bob on September 12, 2019, 12:37:37 PM »
You can load and shoot 8 round mags with a flat bottom but you can only put 7 cartridges in them. ;D

That was my understanding but where in the SHB does it state that?  I searched the document and found nothing. 
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Wild Bunch Rules Forum / Re: Loading 8 rounds in 1911 mags
« Last post by Boggus Deal on September 12, 2019, 10:58:20 AM »
Like with the rifle and shotgun, there is no penalty for overloading magazines. The penalties come with the use of the extra ammo or by leaving the ammo in the gun.
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Wild Bunch Rules Forum / Re: Loading 8 rounds in 1911 mags
« Last post by DUSTY BODDAMS on September 12, 2019, 10:06:06 AM »
You can load and shoot 8 round mags with a flat bottom but you can only put 7 cartridges in them. ;D
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