Author Topic: 7 in the magazine  (Read 3119 times)

J. Frank Norfleet

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Re: 7 in the magazine
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2017, 08:23:04 AM »
"Effective Jan. 01, 2018 ALL WBAS SANCTIONED matches will go to 7 rounds in the magazine."

Does this mean that magazines must always be loaded to 7?  If so, it is just going to make match planners life more difficult. Stages with odd number of shots will, in my opinion, create possible confusion for the participants, both shooters and scorers.

My local clubs are having a difficult time getting decent WB turnout. None of them use the impossible WB scoring system; lots of bitching about the 6 round 97 loading requirement in a gun designed for 5 (duh!), all have gone to allowing .38 rifles with a PF of 150. No one cares about BAAM rifles in our small pistol bays.

I personally enjoy shooting stoked 97's and shooting 1911's, as what could possibly go wrong with 100+ year old firearm designs?

Anyhow, I believe that going from 5 to 7 in the 1911 is not going to accomplish anything positive for the sport other than prove the validity of unintended consequences.

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You do not have to load 7. The current rule reads that you may load up to 5 but no more. So you may load less, the Barney Fife magazine that some carry is an example.
Happy Jack's post says that ALL SANCTIONED matches are 7 round matches. So EoT, WR, Regional and State championships must be 7 round matches. Your local club can do what ever they want. I expect that WB side matches at most SASS club annuals will be 5 round matches. If it is not sanctioned it is up to the match director and ultimately the shooters.
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Re: 7 in the magazine
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2018, 09:07:58 PM »
Bringing back the ol' topic.  Haven't been on the WB Wire in quite a while, but I'm finally having more free weekends and shooting more matches, and actually made 4 WB local matches this year.  As for 7 rounds, it's fine with me as far as that goes.  But when it was first announced, I'm thinking oh cool, we'll have more rounds in the mag and so less mag changes.  For example, instead of 20 rounds in 4 mags, it would be 21 in 3 mags.  That's one more shot and one less mag to change, what's not to like?  (I mean especially for me as I am worse than a novice at mag changes.  It's my most needed practice [which I also don't do]).  But then I find out, oh no it's the same number of mags just more rounds.  And that is great for all you guys with Dillons.  With my Lee Turret that's a lot of extra loading time versus CAS.  Oh well, not gonna gripe, I'm enjoying it!  Strains my brain a bit more for the longer shot string instructions, but not as bad as I thought it would be.  7 Rounds does not seem to have caused a problem with the stage writers around here, even using the same target setup as CAS.  I even wrote a whole slew of 7-shot sequences on only 3 targets, for future use.  Anyway, I'll get a Dillon one of these days 'cuz I do like WB.

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Re: 7 in the magazine
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2019, 04:56:49 PM »
At ECSASS we allow a 1911 [and a SA/DA] at every monthly match, WASA rules, [except the rare Josey Wales all SA match] 1911 mags are loaded with 5. Our terrific Match Director creates monthly matches and WB matches that can be shot by cowboys with SA’s, DA’s and self loaders. Revolver shooters shoot 5+5 while WB match 1911 shooters shoot 15-20. Rifle and sg are the same for all. Adding 2 rounds is only going to complicate the spotters already difficult job with misses and jams thrown in. Not to mention the mental confusion that a shooter will experience going from 5 rd monthly matches to 7 rd regional matches and back again which could potentially become a safety issue. BTW, we allow 1911s to be holstered [mag in] with the slide locked back during our monthly shoots but follow sass WB rules at actual WB matches due to the inexperienced 1911 shooters who will dust off their 1911s that they haven’t shot since the last WB and show up. While I’ve got your ear WASA match rules allow the 1897 pump to be loaded full on the clock, it’s no faster but a whole lot more fun to crank out 6 or 7 than 1 or 2 at a time. Would be a positive change for sass that’s no skin off anyone’s nose.
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