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Blaze Kinkaid 253

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BAMM
« on: May 08, 2019, 09:47:56 AM »
Pards; there is some interest in BAMM matches here in So Arizona, as two of our top shooters are involved in it.  Is there a written format for BAMM that
I could download?  Also what are the most popular rifle and calibers used?  There is a local gun show coming up on May 18-19 that I will  check out.
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Re: BAMM
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2019, 10:21:23 AM »
Blaze,  Goatneck Clem wrote the rules so he is the expert on legal firearms. Garrison Joe is very active with it in NM. I am sure somer of the active shooters will chime in soon.
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Re: BAMM
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2019, 11:05:52 AM »
03 seems to be popular.  Mauser probably right up there as well.
I picked up a Swiss K31.  Most have seen little use. 
The gun Smith checked mine and asked if it had even bern fired the action and barrel was so pristine.
He also said the lock up was tighter than some of the new bolt guns.
Swiss built them like their watches and they were not under war time pressure and restrictions.
Brass is not as easy to find asb 8mm or 30-06.  K31 though takes same bullet size as 30-06 So makes it easy.

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Re: BAMM
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2019, 12:24:59 PM »
K31 has been called the rolls Royce of mil surp guns due to build quality. It’s built to such close tolerance that hand loads must be absolute best quality to function 100%. 03a3 would be the most popular along with the 1903 Springfield. All the mausers based on 98 action are great for BAMM yugo 24,24/47 and model 48 represent a good quality accurate reliable rifle at less than half the cost of a comparable 03. These mausers are all 8mm and easy to loadfor and get brass. Bullets that are hitek coated and g.c. Are a phone call away. Remember that it’s got to be original issue type rifle on outside to be legal, no sporterized stocks and must have as issued battle sights. Buy the best bore you can get your hands on! Remember a polished turd is a turd that’s polished! Look over all the old bolt guns and it will boil down to this for foreign rifles,do you like a straight bolt or a bent bolt better? All the mauser sights are about the same with minor differences. Question on the 03 or 03a3 will be do you like a barrel or a peep sight? Another option are the argentine rifles in 7.65 x53 again easy to load for uses a .312 bullet,brass is easy as it can be bought or simple to make from 8mm.  Whatever your buying buy on condition.  Welcome to BAMM! Dusty B

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Re: BAMM
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2019, 04:00:08 PM »
Howdy Blaze -- There isn't much formal literature on BAMM, but there are a lot of good threads here discussing stage planning, etc. Here is what the SHB says (p17):
"The  rifle  must  be  an  original  caliber  bolt-action  rifle  issued  by  any  country  to  its military  forces  through  the  end  of  WWII.    It  must  be  as  issued  with  original  iron battle  sights  and  NO  external  modifications.  Internal  modifications  are  allowed.  Faithful reproductions are allowed."

The matches I've shot have been very flexible. You don't necessarily need 100yd+ range -- you can just use smaller targets, shoot offhand, etc. -- whatever it takes to shoot a match!

Here's an example course of fire from the Western Territorial a couple of weeks ago:
- Two untimed sighter shots allowed
- Four targets at 75, 100, 125, and 150yds
- From seated/supported position, load five rounds with bolt open.
1. ATB, starting on 125yd target, alternate between it and 150yd target for 5 rounds
2. Move to standing (offhand or supported) position and reload.
3. Starting on 75yd target, alternate on it and 100yd target for 5 rounds.
4. Smile because it was so much fun (I did it three times).

If you are thinking about an 03a3, you are always welcome to handle and shoot mine. I'm hoping with reduced loads (<1600fps) we'll be able to put a regular local match together soon.
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Re: BAMM
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2019, 08:43:45 PM »
Thanks pards for the info input.  Its been invaluable
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Re: BAMM
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2019, 11:23:52 PM »
You are welcome to try my k31 as well but earliest will be 18th LV match.

If you go to the show might want to keep an eye out for a 1903/05 pocket or similar.  Trying to get interest in POP or POcket Pistol wild bunch style.  Those little pistols turn of the century to about WW1 design.  I will bring my 1903 if you want to try that as well.

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Re: BAMM
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2019, 07:41:13 AM »
LV,we have shot 2 pop gun side matches and I’ve gotta say these things are a lotta fun! Last match
We based the stage on 7 rounds sitting in chair,pistol in hand. From about 6 to 7 yards at the beep engage small autoreset target then engage the 6 static targets. We did this a few times and it was really entertaining. Dusty

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Re: BAMM
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2019, 02:22:21 AM »
We are slowly getting BAMM going Down Under too....    Had 2 matches so far as part of State WB matches and as you folks might have guessed the most common rifles used here (so far) are of course the Lee-Enfields.  We've seen early WW1 vintage No 1 Mk III's, right up to late war No 4 Mk Is...  along with Mosin- Nagants, Mausers and a sole O3-A3 (they are scarce and $$$$$$$$$$  down here unfortunately)

Those of you who know me won't be surprised to know I've been looking for something...different.  Would love a K-31 (or a Krag) but availability here is very poor...  what I DID find is perhaps a LITTLE more different than I was intending.    An M1895 Steyr Infantry Rifle.   1917 manufacture.    Straight pull.  Uses Mannlicher style en bloc clips.  8 x 56R...which uses an odd 329/330 projectile - which fortunately ARE available.    Looking forward to seeing how this 102 year old Austro-Hungarian Army issue rifle goes on the range...  fingers crossed.

As an aside , while I was shooting a Mosin at our last match a thought occurred to me...   

Just HOW  unlikely is it that a rifle built at the Tula Arsenal (200 kilometres south of Moscow) ...in 1928.. would end up being used at a shooting match - in Australia - based on a Movie set in 1913 Mexico?   (Yep..I do have too much time on my hands!!!)



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Re: BAMM
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2019, 06:58:20 AM »
Trooper, great news to hear BAMM is down under! The steyr 1895 should prove interesting. I see no reason why it wouldn’t make a great BAMM rifle. I would think the biggest challenge is brass but I’ve read that brass can be built off of mosin brass. I think the rim is way thicker on the steyer because it seems like what I read it had to be head spaced on the shoulder to work. I think 450 basic would be the same way. PPU might make brass? Keep us posted on this! We would like to hear the trials and tribulations! Dusty Boddams

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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2019, 03:08:47 AM »
Will do!   The rifle is coming with about 70 cases... 100 projectiles...3 Mannlicher clips...and dies.   So I can make a good start there.....The barrel condition is of course the big question.  no matter how good it might LOOK the proof is, as always, in the shooting.   Still... this will be an interesting experiment....   
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