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Grouchy Spike

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Dan Wesson 1911 With Rib on Slide
« on: March 26, 2020, 07:59:15 AM »
Some Dan Wesson 1911s, otherwise legal for Modern category, have an integral rib machined into the top of slide.  Would this be legal? 

From WB shooters handbook:   No external “rib” allowed on top of slide.  This means no external rib such as a BoMar may be attached to the top of the slide by screws, welding, or any other means.  The top of the slide may be flattened, serrated, and/or matted to reduce glare.  Original Colt Gold Cup ribs are legal.

Opinions?  Interpretations?
« Last Edit: March 26, 2020, 08:02:02 AM by Grouchy Spike »
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Re: Dan Wesson 1911 With Rib on Slide
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2020, 10:12:40 AM »
I would give the OPINION that the rule is meant to eliminate the function of mechanical accuracy enhancement that a Bomar or other accuracy enhancing rib can provide, and to accept the function of a solid rib that was machined into the slide at the factory - per the Colt Gold Cup example. 

That would make much more sense than believing the rules allow some brand name machined-in ribs and disallow other machined-in ribs, neither of which change the accuracy of the gun, but both perhaps equally and slightly enhance the shooter's abilities.

So, I'd think the Wesson factory machined-in rib would be legal.

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Re: Dan Wesson 1911 With Rib on Slide
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2020, 10:21:29 AM »
So is it like a Original Gold Cup style rib? Which is allowed.
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Re: Dan Wesson 1911 With Rib on Slide
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2020, 11:49:59 AM »
I agree  with the others. Would be legal as it is factory machined into the slide not later attached. Check the weight though as it might go overweight.
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Re: Dan Wesson 1911 With Rib on Slide
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2020, 04:31:26 PM »
Thanks for that official interpretation, Happy Jack!
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Re: Dan Wesson 1911 With Rib on Slide
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2020, 08:13:23 AM »
Grouchy, do you have pics of one? I have not seen one on DW’s website.

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Re: Dan Wesson 1911 With Rib on Slide
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2020, 12:24:29 PM »
May not be the model that GS was considering, but here's a DW with a factory rib:

https://danwessonfirearms.com/product/specialist/
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Re: Dan Wesson 1911 With Rib on Slide
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2020, 08:26:24 PM »
GJ,
That rib looks like it is added, not milled onto the slide like a Gold Cup. Added ribs are illegal.
FYI bought a ribbed slide recently from Fusion Firearms to replace a broken slide. Couldn't use it because the holster no longer fit my holster.
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Re: Dan Wesson 1911 With Rib on Slide
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2020, 08:14:43 PM »
HI Gang; Had a Norinco adjustable sights and machined scratch's on the top of  the slide. NASTEY to leather holster, chewed up a nice new Mernickle holster. But hey it was 400 bucks new.
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Re: Dan Wesson 1911 With Rib on Slide
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2020, 09:59:23 AM »
Grouchy, do you have pics of one? I have not seen one on DW’s website.

BD I do not have a picture of that ribbed slide on a Silverback.  Here is the link to the DW archive of discontinued models that shows the rib in several views:

https://danwessonfirearms.com/product/silverback/
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Re: Dan Wesson 1911 With Rib on Slide
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2020, 11:38:44 AM »
That’s no bigger, if as big, than a Gold Cup. Without seeing one up close to see something more, I’d say that would be legal.

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Re: Dan Wesson 1911 With Rib on Slide
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2020, 05:30:48 PM »
Here's what Dan Wesson's VP of Operations provided today in regards to the nature of the DW slide rib that they used to have as an option:

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The Clark Style rib was discontinued but was an integral part of the slide by machining a round top slide.  This rib does not stand proud of a standard round top slide and will fit into any standard 1911 holster.

Keith Lawton
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Dan Wesson Firearms | CZ-USA

I appreciate his taking the effort to provide this info for us!

Good luck, & stay safe, GJ
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Re: Dan Wesson 1911 With Rib on Slide
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2020, 06:11:30 PM »
thanks for pursuing the facts, GJ!
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Re: Dan Wesson 1911 With Rib on Slide
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2020, 08:00:06 PM »
A picture of the DW Silverback with rib.  It shoots like a dream!
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